What we need to do is get America to get Israel to stop doing this shit, and it's over.

[sylvar]

According to a radio news story I just heard, the World Health Organization is estimating that there will be 900,000 Lebanese people displaced by the end of the day due to Israel's dirty little war.

Israel is considering an invasion by massive ground forces, and refuses to stop until Hezbollah is completely disarmed.

I grew up learning about the history of the people of Israel (Am Yisrael) and the country of Israel (Eretz Yisrael), and I was led to believe that they were one and the same. But groups like Neturei Karta (Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism) seem to offer a different view -- that there should be no country of Israel until the Messiah shall establish it.

Perhaps Jews do deserve a country after the Holocaust. But I think Germany would have been a more appropriate choice than Palestine. And I think that Israel has lost any claim on the world's sympathy.

I don't have any solutions. I don't know what I want. But I think that GWB's advice to others would be a pretty good idea for the Israeli government and military: Stop doing that shit. And maybe we shouldn't have sold them all those weapons.

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[loucheroo.livejournal.com]

I'm not going to get into any sort of debate with you. I haven't been following the war closely enough to be able to do it in an educated manner, though I DO know that in this instance, the Israelis weren't the instigators.

I'm just going to post a response to one thing, because I can answer this bit:

Perhaps Jews do deserve a country after the Holocaust. But I think Germany would have been a more appropriate choice than Palestine.

The location chosen was because that is the land that supposedly was promised to the Jews by God. Unfortunately, it was also promised to the Muslims by Allah and contains a particularly holy Christian place as well :P But that's why the particular location was chosen. It's meant to be a Jewish homeland, so it was placed in what the Jews considered home. A large portion of the land of Israel, however, and I could be off on this, was spoils of war... wars that were instigated by Not-Israelis....

[loucheroo.livejournal.com]

oh yeah -- and if I read the article correctly, Dub was talking about Hezbollah -- the Lebanese group -- when he said they should stop doing that shit...

[tiger-stripes.livejournal.com]

That's correct.

[cadrys.livejournal.com]

There is an irony in having the Temple Mount and the Dome of the Rock co-located like that.

(and you are not wrong, btw. The West Bank and the Golan Heights were seized by Israel after Egypt/Syria launched a surprise attack with the intention of wiping them off of the map. They won't be given back any time soon due to the strategic importance of the land in defending the rest of Israel. When you see any reference to the '1967 borders', that's what they are talking about.]

[sylvar.livejournal.com]

There is an irony in having the Temple Mount and the Dome of the Rock co-located like that.

Indeed, God is an iron.